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Balkanski rap- Croatian
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Wysłany: 2009-02-24, 02:10   Balkanski rap- Croatian

Croatian rap

Beggining was in the 80's, but first artists were so underground that i found out that when i watched first documentary about CRO rap few months ago. Most of them made their sucess but later, as techno /house DJs.

90's really started it all. Most legendary group turned out to be TRAM 11 made of Target and General Woo. Than Bolesna braća made of Bizzo and Baby Dooks- they had real bang beats and few hits, but rhymes are zero;what they do the best is beats and production, so they did it for some big names. There were also Stoka i Nered ,they had huge demo Spremni za rat, very funny and promising debut album, but they went on their separate ways, doing drug rehab but no work on rhymes. Stoka is making his money now doing big concerts, such as: 50, snoop, alicia keys, lil kim, and in april beyonce. He is also doing songs for sports such as: football and handball. Nered is doing song about how he cares about our capital city Zagreb, flow the same always, short lines, rhymes like biti- kriti. Tram 11 god separted too after second album. Target was real big idol than, now u can see him ambushing you with he's new mixtapes so he could earn 4 dollars cca. thats is very sad. he also done some time in the sanitorium. General Woo did two solo albums still labeled, nothing much. Listeners are people who doesnt care about the rhyme, but they like his love towards to town Vu(woo)kovar that was destroyed in war in 90's.He also helps some new kids on the block, supporting them to rap.

Best hits of TRAM 11:

hrvatski velikani ( croatian Great-people)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqxWfJOESe0

this song signed them in first label. talking about money,something like all about benjamins.
radić,marulić and starčević are history people done big thing for our country and they are imaged on our money.

pad sistema ( sytem fail)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDpjfHWrWAI

talking about how it would be nice if there wouldnt be no - problems.

Kaj ima lima (whats up kiddo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alha4UXp1Ws

talking about new kids drinking,smoking ,not going to school, just because they want to be like grown coolers from the block

Vrućina gradskog asfalta ( heat of the city asfalt)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFalfwmq8Ks

talking about hot street days compering it to rising heat in sociaty.

Bolesna braća


biggest hit:
Lovačke priče ( Fool stories)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOTJpLuIv34

talking about people talking lies what they have and who they did- my teacher used to be bruce lee, my neighboor used to be ice- t...

Stoka (cattle)i Nered (mess)

199 deva ( i thing its refferd to 1999 year) feat Bizzo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewe0zwY-KnE

Stoka starts talking about his day.like he is ginecologiest, talking about all pussies he sees in one day hahaha

Ritam grada ( city rhytam)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzELBI6pqqI

this is quiet nice beat, and the featuring singer is Josipa Lisac,she's somthing like the oldschool diva,very excentric but respected. this is song for the Zagreb.


There's also El Bahattee, friend of all those people. You can all see them in video Hrvatski Velikani. Bahattee done 2 albums. First was rap, second was AMEN with almost metal backgrouding. He had some political issues so Amen was response to that. After that he got out of the rap and the whole Croatia wants him back, to me he was almost the greatest.

El Bahattee:

svaki pas ima svoj dan ( every dog has his day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpptzcGglIk

waiting his day to come

Čovjek pod naponom ( Man under voltage) from amen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQ6EALtebw

talking about scum people, and how their are people under voltage just ready to explode coz of state shit problems.

Učini to na balkanski način ( do it on the balcan way) from amen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GOuYA84lAU

Expression balkan is not very good thing... in croatia say we will never get to EU,coz we are balcans..means people who are barbarians, they dont have good maners,something like rednex.. :P so he says if u want to do success ,you cant do it by education but with guns or illegally.


There's always TBF. They are from city Split, croatian seaside. Their lyrics are flegmatic, funny, wise. They have some other influences, with little bit of rock n roll.thex perform with band.

Nostalgična ( nostalgic song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sT-5BA2fIc

talking how it was before..like it was much better before

alles gut ( everything good)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfQMkO-dss

talking about perfect hot day when they dont do enything special,just enjoying. nothing can destory such a good day..
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In '00

Those groups above were making those albums i mentiond, but they started on hop hop movement in 90s.

New artists ans still on the scene are: Elemental, Edo Maajka. later Sinestet ,Connect , Khan and Acc ( those groups in last 2 years been labeled).


Elemental

they were 2 men and a woman group. Later Inkognito went solo and made Sinestet with Magellano.

they were founded in 1998, first album 2000 Moj, Njegov i Njezin svijet (mine,his and hers world). in 2002 they had album svijetla velegrada ( lights of the big city) feated by all those groups i mentioned before.. Coz all rappers sticked together than.

in 2004 they had album male stvari ( little things) without Incognito, Remi and Shot made a band,something like roots and had many hits that was liked by people who werent into rap, like major audionce.Six singles were taken and they made a huge success: ‘Napokon’, ‘Romantika’, ‘Tako Lijepa’, ‘Sama’, ‘Iz Dana U Dan’ and ‘Male Stvari’.

in 2008 new album pod pritiskom (under pressure). loved by people too. first single is zašto te imam.

Romantika (romance)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvYInzOMd3k

its hard to think about the romance, when u're so mmmmmmm fine. dont have no maners i just think how to undress u, when u re do mmmmmmmm fine. its hard to stay a lady, coz the lady is always alone, mmmm, maybe i will take u home.

its not sexy song,its funny song when remi met a guy in the bar and she starts flerting, and than she takes him home but the guy is such an amateur in bed, and talks how guys talk about sex the day after like it was smthing special,but it was 5 minutes and he didnt do nothing right. they dont provide songs like lil kim about sex, but makin fun of it.

first hit,i think first album,.
Dal sjecas se ( do u remember)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkLF7jDgew4

talking when they all sticked together, in 1996 years. when hip hop was rare on the street, and money was not the part of hip hop.this is croatia classic too, just like tram 11 and hrvatski velikani song.
whenever they sing that song..whole crowd goes in delirium,its some strange vibe that reminds people and everything is good again,just as long the song lasts.

do u remember
sun shined harder
do u rember
people done it right
do u remember
rhyme was all that mattered
do u remember
today money what matters
what went wrong with us..

2004
Tako lijepa ( she is so beautiful)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR8GYdlxeho

song about the girl that is so perfect - always dressed up,has no problems,whole world has to wait when she wants it, has a stress guru thats read tarot for her and her dog..the chours says: u dont worth that much honey, u overrated yourself,tryin to be on my shoulder,yeah right.everyone who sees you,just wants to fuck you,thats all that you re made for. its a bout the girls that likes guys who buys them stuff.in the end girls stays alone.

Iz dana u dan ( day by day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZER5JPB2uM0

Social song how to make it trough the next day. Chours: we just live a day trough the day, and every dream is erased.who should i ask, who will give the answers, say anything but that it could be worse.
Talking how we are free now, after the war, but whut is that when people are poor and have no dreams to go along. And the biggest country -lover or patriot is the one that robbed average people.

Sama ( Alone)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaCGk-xCt8c

everybody told her to find a boring but stabil job to be sure to have a jos always, but she didnt want to listen them, and she made it trying it alone.

2008 album
Zašto te imam ( why do i have you)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfNU7rU41jo

why do i have u when u dont give me anything, why do i have u when u wont hear my voice. do you ever think of me,do you ever stop for a second and think of us.
social song, came out when out goverment fucked up people again.
talking how politicions are elected on the nice eyes,just got into the state top ,and they sleep when they should be making laws. Actually that is true, some politicions got cought by camera sleeping in parliament.
this video is very funny and they wont let it on national tv coz in video are real politicionas doing nothing ,just eating on thay big days when promising.

Crveno ( red light)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zoeLPzeTw

love song. she is heart broken, he doesnt give a damn really about her. she remembers the red lights on the street coz it was little thing that was special to them, coz they never stopped on it when drivin together.

I liked it better when u used to drive me home
silence used to say a thousend words
every red light used to mean that we are together
now i run, as far as can go

in the end that was her last drive trough red light coz she dies in an accident
i love this song,lyrics are great.

to be contiued with EDO majka..
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TRAM 11 ....Ce groupe est vraiment enorme :] It's fucking geat :D
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"Stoka Josipa Lisac-Ritam Grada" Thatz sound good!
But... :D who is in refren man or woman? xD A little bit I understood tha (ja i ekipa; zajebalcje - it's like polish :D )

Lovačke priče - one of them look like Mieszko with Grupa Operacyjna ;) but about son, I like it. Thatz son used in film?

El Bahattee - Svaki pas ima svoj dan ---> I'm thinkin' the rhytm is charastic for these region, that melody (violin?).

TBF - Nostalgicna --> Krzysztof Krawczyk (no nie? :D ), it's really nostalgicna ;)

Damn... helas, I don't understood what they r singing. Yours description a little help me.

(Sorry for write one time english and second time french, but when I don't know how say qch in english I write in french)

I'm waitin' for continue :piwko:
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hehe

@mj stoka feat josipa lisac..yes woman sings- she sings: good morning ( dobro jutro) zagrebe ( capital of croatia,main city), your smell ( tvoj miris) awaknes me ( budi me). this night i had a dream about you ( noćas sanjala sam te) that you're kissing me gently (da nježno ljubiš me).my zagreb ( moj zagrebe).

lovačke priče- its not used in the movie. dont know why that took those parts in the movie, must be somekind of deal with cinematographers in zagreb.

ek bahattee- no, its not very characteristic for croatia, but rappers here likes violin sounds.

what song u like the most, i can translate it for u.
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Elemental it's good, she bring fresh in them muzic.

Can U translate Stoka - Don Stoleon, I'm interested about wht he's singin'.
If U can ofcoz :)
I guess he's singin' about rapper (I'm mafia etc.) but tous it isn't true, I guess so.
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im the mafia, they look for me on every continent,jelous husbands, politics and cops,presidential lounges resereved for me. everybody wants my rap,man and woman.
thats the chours

there was also rapper renmen in the 90's.. before tram 11 and co. he had very similar song on the chours.. renman never really did something in 00 so he is forgotten

here's one video
nemreš bolivet ( cant believe it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XS-1zFEytA
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